Comments on: 4 England selection dilemmas that will be resolved in Paris http://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris Rugby Union opinion and discussion, for the fans, by the fans. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:37:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: Benjithttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378877 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:46:00 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378877 I’m an anti-Sarries fan and think George is great too ;)

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By: Dazzahttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378876 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:36:43 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378876 Completely agree with the Ford/Farrell axis. They played so much together at 10/12 in the age groups for England, and under Lancaster at the time I believe.
I guess the only reason not to play them together too much is if one of them gets crocked, we’re in trouble.

As far as the France game goes, the thing that worries me about Burrell is he seems to try and be something he’s not, and that’s a playmaking 12. He’s shown flashes of it for Saints in the last couple of years, but not consistently enough to be considered as one. He can cut loose on occasion and break the defence, but as we saw in the 6N, he then gets a bit lost and doesn’t know what to do next. The chance he had to grubber the ball or at least attempt a long pass to Watson, but instead he tried to take the defence one on one and failed! It really sticks in my mind, that at international level, those kind of chances cannot be missed.

We know what we’re going to get with Barritt, and that is a player who will not stop tackling for 80 minutes, and will crash the ball up when required, get stuck into rucks and slow down opposition ball. People will say that’s not the 12’s job, but against some teams it’s exactly what you need. This is why I think Burgess could be crucial. Especially having played so much at 6 recently for Bath. If he can play like he did last week but with Ford and JJ, and England can hold their defensive shape, we really will be a force.

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By: Stuhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378873 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:25:58 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378873 That’s the gamble for wales isn’t it, in theory they would protect the top players for the England game but can they risk poor point return or even a loss against South American champions. Wales always seem to be slow starters in 6 nations and I wonder if this may also be the case in RWC? I think if England beat Fiji well then Gatland will be forced to play his strongest team meaning some players may still be suffering when they play England less than a week later.

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By: Blubhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378867 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:24:39 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378867 I would go into the Fiji game with the A team.

For me, that means Ford. I believe he is good enough to play a tighter game as necessary.

It is the first game, a potential banana skin, and it needs to be taken seriously and respectfully. If, and I wouldn’t take this as a “given”, England get into a comfortable position then they cane make changes earlier than they may otherwise

England then have 8 days until they play Wales. Wales will have had six days from their Uruguay game.

The Uruguay game is an interesting choice for Gatland. Does he play his A team in that? I think that he probably should, simply to get a game under their belts. From an England perspective I would rather he chose a second string to play Uruguay.

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By: Andrewhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378866 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:20:15 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378866 Hi Dazza,

I like the idea of Farrell and ford playing together with Slade at 15. That would be a very open and quick game. Would need May and Watson on the wings and maybe even Nowell at fullback. Maybe against Uruguay. Could be fun. Depends on how many points are needed.

I think centres for France will be fine as they were in the 6 nations together and have had more time than most.

The Anti Farrell vibe really annoys me and I can see him playing a huge point in the next few weeks. His friendship with Ford can only be a positive if they play together.

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By: Dazzahttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378864 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:17:29 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378864 If that’s the case I would love to know what part of his game it is. Statistically the best line out thrower in the squad, so unless SL thinks he’s not solid in the scrum, or offers nothing around the park?!
I am a Sarries fan so slightly biased, but I’ve been watching George play for yeaars, and his attitude and workrate is second to none. Very very rarley seen him have a bad game. I’ve also never seen him swear at a ref, punch, bite or headbutt players. Maybe that’s what SL thinks he’s lacking!? Lol

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By: Dazzahttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378863 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:01:59 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378863 HI Andrew,

If Ford has the right players around him I think he’s perfectly capable of playing in any game. If Barritt gets fit I would definitely have him in the Wales and Aus games beside Ford. I still think we might see Ford and Farrell together at some point.

The difference in the two players means you have to change other players to get the best out of them. If Farrell is playing you need a Goode or Slade in the team because Farrell does have a habit of getting stuck in rucks trying to win turnovers, and you need another first receiver/playmaker. If Ford is playing you need Barritt (or similar) to hold and organise the defence.

It will be interesting to see Fofana and Bastareaud running at Burrell and JJ this weekend and see how they cope with them. Both are tricky players to defend against and I’m not sure Burrell and JJ will cope too well?! Having 12T on the bench doesn’t fill me with much hope either.

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By: Andrewhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378861 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:06:12 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378861 It’s a Bob Dillon reference but it’s a good Frank turner song too :)

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By: Jayhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378859 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:40:19 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378859 Nice Frank Turner reference ;) All fair points though. If Barritt has Ford and Joseph around him, he can worry about being the defensive staple while they create.

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By: Pablitohttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378847 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:40:47 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378847 I agree with that. We’ll beat Fiji with structured, strategic rugby. If we go into the match thinking we’re going to fling the ball around and score bucket-loads of tries, we could be in trouble.

As Wales found in 2007, if you try to play Fiji at their own game it’s going to end in tears.

A defensive but capable backline of Wigglesworth, Farrell, Barritt, Joseph, Nowell, Watson and Brown for me please

Also wouldn’t want to see Youngs or Ford get injured in the first game

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By: Benjithttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378846 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:35:34 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378846 Agree we need to be wary of Fiji. Need to quiet them early doors and get some scores, I back Ford for that. Who knows maybe Farrell at 12 for kicking.

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By: Leonhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/4-england-selection-dilemmas-that-will-be-resolved-in-paris#comment-378842 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:15:48 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38580#comment-378842 Re: Jamie George, it sounds like Lancaster has some aspect of his game that he doesn’t like on the basis that he didn’t make the original 50. That being the case his chances seem slim unless he can shown Lancaster that
a) he can improve/change that aspect in camp and
b) he can perform on the international stage

Cowan-Dickie passed the first and flunked the second
Haven’t seen anything in the media about lancaster opinion of george’s performance in camp but i get the feeling that unless he has a stellar 30+ minutes he will not make the cut, which will be a big shame

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