Comments on: Dan Cole: “We were naive in 2011. Now we’re settled.” http://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled Rugby Union opinion and discussion, for the fans, by the fans. Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:19:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: teeceehttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378976 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:02:14 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378976 I think you should stop tarring all English people with the same brush mate. Remember the battle of Orgreave? Remember Whitelaw saying that Liverpool should be left to die during the 80’s?
The riots in Birmingham and Liverpool and London, the destruction of the Northern industrial powerhouses?

Yeah England had it really easy under Thatch.

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By: Prophet Enochhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378964 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:45:39 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378964 Actually, I live in Gwynedd.

But then I would not expect you, an English man, a Sais and a white colonist to understand the difference between a community in North Wales that was wiped from the face of the Earth to provide water for the residents of Liverpool in the 1950s to the 750,000 residents of the valleys who are living with the economic and social policies of Margaret Thatcher. Policies that in the 1980s led to the valley communities of South Wales seeing male unemployment rates rise to 34+%.

You never lived through this and will never understand, as you never saw your own community RAPED by the the English state.

Tories 330 seats with 318 seats in Engerlund. 1 In Scotland, none in Ulster/Northern Ireland and barely 1 seat in 4 in Wales.

Yet you can now laugh and mock as the Tories dictate to Ulster/Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland, the submerged nations of the UK that never elected this Tory, privileged and public school elite of ‘Call me Dave’ + ‘Gorgeous Goering’ once …..ever…at all

You support a mere team as I watch my community crumble around me courtesy of the English State and you think that I should doff my cap in the direction of the English??????

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By: Prophet Enochhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378962 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:16:28 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378962 No I am comparing the reality of the 1930s Olympics of 1936 and Leni Refienstahl’s famous Nazi epic ‘Olympiad’ to the reality that the Welsh, the Scots, the Ulstermen and the Irish Nationalists community of the North of Ireland will have to suffer from now until the 31st Oct 2015 assuming EnGErLUND make the final on All Hallowes Eve at 4:00pm

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By: Pablitohttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378955 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:14:12 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378955 Stu. Don’t rise to it. Enoch may very very rarely say something worth reading but generally his posts are the witterings and rantings of a man with an inferiority complex the size of Glamorgan

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By: Stuhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378954 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 10:13:47 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378954 Are you really comparing a rugby World Cup to the Nazis just because it’s in England?

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By: Prophet Enochhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378953 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:55:04 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378953 The arrogance and unpleasantness of English rugby players is well documented e.g. at RWC 2011 in NZ and of course earlier in 2008 in NZ with a certain Mr Brown.

One could write a very very long book detailing the scandals surrounding this team, its union and all that surrounds the ‘Entitlement attitude’ of those who play, run and so many of those who support English rugby.

All non-English citizens of Britain must now prepare themselves to be bombarded by full blown wall to wall pro-English media propaganda.

The sort of thing was last seen on this scale at the Berlin Olympics in 1936.

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By: teeceehttp://www.therugbyblog.com/dan-cole-we-were-naive-in-2011-now-were-settled#comment-378947 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:52:44 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38628#comment-378947 I admire Coles loyalty to the coaching staff and he’s obviously “on message” but it depends on your definition of naivety.

Wood’s brain freeze last week in opting to go for the corner when 3 points were needed could be labelled naïve,as could Haskell’s dumb trip v France in the 6N. Robshaw has form here too.

When the pressure is on or a difficult decision has to be taken I still think England lack a player with a genuinely cool demeanour and cold eyed logic.

It’s another SNAFU from Bomber ultimately. Either he won’t let the players think for themselves or he has failed to give them the confidence and guidance to do so correctly. T-CUP springs to mind!

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