Comments on: Disenfranchised: what Warren Gatland’s selections mean for Scottish Rugby

By: Dewibach

Dewibach — Sun, 07 Jul 2013 08:26:02 +0000

I disagree, Cuthbert & Evans are both right up there and Cuthbert is getting better every game, the suspect defending is much overstated (dont forget Charteris who has been injured). The Aus whitewash was without a coach (Gatland injured Howley completely green) and the Autumn internationals saw us minus half a dozen first second and third choice players (playing 4th choice tight head and fifth choice lock and other poor selections by Howley) Liam Williams (young fullback) instead of George North. Wales should have beaten the Aus several times and would have with Gatland in situ. The last test we lost by 2 points in injury time without Adam Jones, AW Jones, Lydiate & North playing Lou Reed as 6th choice lock. I`m telling you now as sure as god made little apples, all on the pitch together (or close to and our replacements bench has been really strengthened due to last autumns injury crisis) and we will be a match for anyone (now if we can just get that mold of solid gold to produce another Barry John!)

By: Simo

Simo — Sun, 07 Jul 2013 07:55:04 +0000

I really think you are underestimating the impact that some of the non-welsh players had. Don’t get me wrong, the welsh boys were excellent, but swapping in Cuthbert and Evans would have weakened the team. (Bowe was excellent arielly and defensively, and Parling’s tap tackle… Need I say more?)

Also I wouldn’t get too far ahead of yourself and start predicting far off victories, after all, this group of “world class player” are the ones who saw a AI whitewash, which included a loss to Samoa.

Now the welsh boys have the monkey off their backs, they have their first win against the wallabies, so they just need to focus on consistency.
Another area that Wales really struggle is the depth. (While this lot were away with the lions, the next-in-liners lost the Japan). That should be the focus now.

By: Pablito

Pablito — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 21:25:50 +0000

Jesus. I have to congratulate Oran for perhaps the most pathetic comment in a thread that’s hardly short of them.

Well done Brighty, Matt, Blub and a few others for standing up to the fair-weather fans and other assorted cretins.

Damn, it feels good to be right and to cheer yourself hoarse as your team thumps the opposition

By: brighty

brighty — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:47:25 +0000

Ha ha. 41-16. Ha ha. Poor selection. I wish we selected this poorly for every match. Ha ha. Enjoy, ooops, sorry, I forgot you didn’t enjoy, supporting the Aussies today. How did that go for you? Bitter much? Mwah ha ha ha ha. I’m off for another celebratory pint, enjoy your draught of twisted self pity. Ooops. More name calling from me. Sorry. I’m just so giddy with happiness right now, can you imagine what that feels like? Lions fans know exactly how it feels.

By: Peter

Peter — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:37:03 +0000

Yes only after they got rid of Phillips.another poor welsh selection and Davies did not measure up to BOD

By: Oran

Oran — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:22:41 +0000

Congratulations to Wales! Finally figured out how to beat the Wallabies. Just add one or 2 foreigners and there ya have it ;)

Hope to see a return to a proper Lions tour in 2017 with no Gatland involvement.
For you guys who think that it is just about winning then you will see this shambles as a success.
Is Ian Mc Geechan the only person on the planet who can actually coach the Lions properly??

The only winners on this tour are Wales and HSBC, cuz now they have an excuse to generate a few more million in 2017!

By: Dewibach

Dewibach — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 17:10:39 +0000

Oh dear, what a lot of ill informed jingoistic rubbish. 10 Taffys because if Gats had put in Evans and Cuthbert and Jenkins and Warbs had been fit he would have been criticised for playing Sexton in the Welsh team (tongue in cheek chaps) If you read the articles that correspond to this in the Torygraph there is the same rubbish about the number of English players and I would guess the same in Ireland too. Fact is Wales have a batch of world class players all at the same time and they deserved their places. Evans and Cuthbert woudldnt have weakend the team one iota. All this will become crystal clear in the autumn internationals this year and next years 6N. If we can unearth another mercurial flyhalf before the next world cup it will take a dodgy ref to stop us.

By: brighty

brighty — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:32:45 +0000

Oran – “Lions 2013 – no creativity, no ambition, poor selections”. Ouch, awkward silence…

By: brighty

brighty — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:44:56 +0000

Sorry Peter, I can’t hear you for all the roaring going on in this pub. Gats vindicated. Best British and Irish side since 97. Brilliant. Majestic. Power, guile and quality. LIONS!!!!!!!

By: Oran

Oran — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 09:46:32 +0000

In reply to the in accurate and in coherent mumbo jumbo from Mr “not so bright”
I do not hate the Welsh. I think that they have a fine team and I pay money regularly to go and see them play both at club and international level.
I just don’t think that there should be 10 players from Wales in this team. If Warburton was fit that would have been 11. They have not exactly got a great record against the Aussies in recent times.

At no point did I tell you what comments to reply to and how to reply to them. If u take the red dragons out of your eyes and actually read what I wrote then u might see that.
I simply asked u to respect other people’s opinions and not name call and act childishly.

Enjoy the match!
Go Lions! I mean Wales! I mean Wallabies ;)

By: brighty

brighty — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 08:38:51 +0000

Oran, your opinion is that players were not picked because they are welsh. You use incorrect facts to state that previous tours were much more inclusive. You talk about the “other” three nations being hard done by.

So when your opinion is based on ignorance and a dislike of the welsh, as I am welsh, I feel happy to reply in the manner I have. Dont tell me which “opinions” I can reply to and the manner in which I can reply to them. If you only want replies of a specific type then do not comment on a public forum. Refuting my claims would be the intelligent response, trying to say I should not even make them is feeble.

By: Oran

Oran — Sat, 06 Jul 2013 08:29:13 +0000

Brighty u clearly have nothing better to do except fly off the handle at every comment that goes against your opinions.

You need to realise and respect that everyone is entitled to have an opinion and maybe, just maybe……other people might see it different to you!

Please try and show some respect for opinions that differ to yours and less of your childish and pathetic name calling.