Comments on: Lions Head-to-Head: Wales v England Stats http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats Rugby Union opinion and discussion, for the fans, by the fans. Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:19:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Leon http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391718 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:26:02 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391718 I read this interesting article about what Itoje needs at 6
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/analysis-what-itoje-can-offer-england-at-six/

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By: Rob http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391716 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:51:04 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391716 You’ve got to factor in AWJ’s (winning) Lions experience. I can’t believe he won’t tour.

These stats are very revealing but obviously don’t tell the full story … context is everything, e.g. sometimes conceding a penalty at the ruck is the ‘right’ thing to do in defence so possibly shouldn’t be classified as ineffective.

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By: Leon http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391712 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:25:35 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391712 With stats of 15/16 and 9/9 it looks like we are doing something right regardless of who is receiving the lineout ball

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By: Hutch http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391711 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:17:37 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391711 Agree on AWJ, and I thought his captaincy credentials suffered a setback on Saturday. And then, if he’s not there for his leadership, does he make the test squad, or even the tour?

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By: JIMP http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391710 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:15:01 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391710 I noticed Lawes and Maro flipped at scrum time between lock and blindside…. I guess that helped Lawes stats in the loose and tackle stats… AWJ seemed to br very effective in running dialogue with the ref during the first 40 which gave a strong case for lions selection, but after halftime he went silent… Overall im not convinced he’s a better lock than the English 4, Jonny Gray or Henderson…

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By: Jay http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391707 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:23:23 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391707 Okay, gotcha.
I dunno, I think it tells an interesting story, especially looking at someone like Warburton – in theory was a lot less effective than everybody else at ruck time – compared to Tipuric.
But then you also need to drill down into what the effective contributions actually were to determine how much influence a player had in the ruck I guess.

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By: Blub http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391705 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:43:35 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391705 The lineout stats are interesting. I understand that Itoje was running the England line so it is interesting to see he called nothing to himself. If I recall rightly – and i’m sure there will be a stat somewhere – i don’t think he jumped against France either in the first half. Second half he seemed to take quite a lot of the ball.

I wonder whether this is because the opposition defenders target Itoje in the line, which presumably frees up the other jumpers.

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By: Hutch http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391703 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:28:38 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391703 Glad you like these articles. You can blame me for the colours, but not for Clifford’s lack of contribution!

Agree on the lineout stats, I was surprised to see now back row takes either. England won 9 from 9, so can’t complain too much, but ball to the back might provide a better attacking platform.

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By: Hutch http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391702 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:26:38 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391702 Effective: Cleaned out or Secured ball in attack; Turnover Won, Penalty Won, Nuisance/Slowing ball in Defence

Ineffective: Failed clear out, Nothing to assist securing ball or Pen Conceded in Attack; In the ruck but not contesting, cleaned out by opposition, conceded penalty in Defence.

There’s a table in an article Hosie wrote last year: http://www.therugbyblog.com/six-nations-2016-who-is-most-effective-at-the-breakdown

Not the most interesting stat…!

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By: JK http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391701 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:22:46 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391701 These articles are really interesting. Wish Accenture had a better colour scheme though, poor Jack Clifford didn’t get much done from what I can see!

Quite surprised they didn’t use Itoje in the lineout. That was in theory a major plus in having him at 6, the number of jumpers to aim for. I recall him taking plenty against France.

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By: Jay http://www.therugbyblog.com/lions-head-to-head-wales-v-england-stats#comment-391700 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:09:52 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=43503#comment-391700 What is ruck effectiveness measured against exactly?

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