Comments on: Moment of the weekend: Owen Williams’ massive hit on Tagicakibau

By: dingdongdenny

dingdongdenny — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:40:32 +0000

Nice Ding Dong lads! – enjoyed reading it! 10/10

Ding Dong Denny

By: Kerry Sandford

Kerry Sandford — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:30:01 +0000

your pomposity exceeds your ignorance.

By: Brighty

Brighty — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:12:54 +0000

You demanded the “denigration” by dishing it out. I am not attempting to justify my position, I am disagreeing with your statement that enjoying the big tackles is irresponsible. If you want people to take your point seriously you might avoid combining it with low level abuse about people’s inability to “understand” the rest of the game. Your smug “expectation” of my response does your cause no favours.

By: Kerry Sandford

Kerry Sandford — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:09:06 +0000

Your attempt to justify your position and denigrate my input was expected. Perhaps if you had a brother in a wheelchair as a result of a tackle you might also want to pursue the issue of tackling and its consequences.

By: Brighty

Brighty — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:49:53 +0000

Kerry, my response proves nothing of he sort. The only thing it proves is that you’ll ignore most of what someone says so that you can further your obviously personal crusade against what you see as the brutalisation of the game and also fuel your pompous sense of self importance by dismissing others as simply “not understanding what the rest of the game is about.” You could not be more wrong.

By: Kerry Sandford

Kerry Sandford — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 00:04:33 +0000

your response proves my point that your whole enjoyment from a game of Rugby stems from tackles made and the more bone crushing the better. As a player and coach of many years, solid defense, including solid and well executed tackles are certainly part of the game but in recent years, like Rugby League, the more spectacular the “hit” the more media attention it gets to the point where you have websites purely focused on “The best Hits”. tackles are but a small part of the game but unfortunately many do not understand what the rest of the game is about.

By: skotmi

skotmi — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:59:31 +0000

Leicester tackle fine, Sam Warburton tackle fine. Le Clerc and Le Bleu whining surrender monkeys…again!

By: brighty

brighty — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:18:26 +0000

I agree Anarky that consistency is all over the place. in the Mun v Sar game I saw Goode clearly, and with intent (as in he was looking at the man, not the ball) take out a jumper in the air. Replays on tele and in the ground showed it clearly. Zero sanction, just a stiff word. That’s usually a red card.

By: brighty

brighty — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:16:12 +0000

Kerry, you see highlighting a tackle as somehow negative? For many of us the art of defence in rugby can be more exhilarating than seeing some tries flopped over. In this particular game the 2 Scarlets tries were not all that much – capitalising on two forced errors.

“The focus on negatives plays to those that consider big hits a highlight of the game” – now you’ve totally lost me, you a) see big hits as a negative and b) seem to think we shoudn’t fete them as an exciting part of the game? Have you heard of football perhaps? It has scores and no hits, might be more your thing?

By: Kerry Sandford

Kerry Sandford — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:12:19 +0000

You are missing the point. The issue is not the tackle per say but that out of all the highlights of the game the commentators chose to highlight a tackle as opposed to the scoring of a try. The focus on negatives plays to those that consider big hits a highlight of the game.

By: Martyn Cleasby

Martyn Cleasby — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:17:01 +0000

Williams’ tackle was a great one

By: Anarky

Anarky — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:00:40 +0000

I’m unperturbed :) for me, SW was a yellow, Williams was a penalty. However I do concede it was the wrong example to highlight.

But you have pointed out the inconsistency in applying the ruling which is what I’m trying to say. Williams did not deliver Tagicakibau to the ground in a safe manner – it should have been a penalty based on the current rules of the game. People are basing most of the ‘good tackle’ on the fact he landed on his back, which shouldn’t be the deciding factor.

It should be “did Williams just deliver him to the ground in a safe and controlled manner?” I don’t think the answer was yes. But like I said I wasn’t calling for a red card, or even a yellow, but did think it was a penalty.