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Rate the match: Wales vs Scotland, Six Nations 2016

Rate the match between Wales and Scotland at the Principality Stadium in the Six Nations, and leave your thoughts on the game

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42 replies on “Rate the match: Wales vs Scotland, Six Nations 2016”

Jamie, i would like to the your srats over the years to see wht averages the best game stats, i will be suprised if any rate higher than scot v wales , they are nearly always the best game of the 5/6 nations , there are a few reasons for that but i dont want to go into them now , just wondering if im right ?

Can’t be more so than England vs Wales matches surely (or come to that some hum-singers like some memorable Calcutta Cup matches (namely the ones when Scotland won e.g the 1990 Classico)

I’d challenge you to have been at slog fest in Murray field in 2013 which saw the highest amount of penalties scored in a six nations match…

Too much aimless kicking. Disappointing from the perspective of both teams, I would guess, since Scotland blew their chance and Wales took 55 mins to really get into their stride and then conceded a try at 78 mins. I really want to see Scotland put Italy and France away after that.

imo wales v scotland is usually the most entertaining game of the 5/6n , and the best “trip £ for both suporters, its a pity england dont have the the same atmosphere around the ground , you leave twickers and thats the end of the day , in cardiff . edinboro and dublin its a great day out aaaal day and the craik is brilliant , i feel sorry for english fans in a way , crap location, no atmosphere outside the ground , nowhere for banter after and your disliked for your superior/arrogant attitude , …. i feel sorry for what you miss and what rugby is about

Obviously a one eyed comment osiboy. I think all the grounds will have similar atmosphere and also in the pubs near by – the Aviva is hardly in the middle of Dublin. I think your bias is just purely based on an anti-English attitude.

Cardiff is obviously a great place for rugby, being in the city centre there are a lot of people in a small space. I especially like the queues after for the trains…

The Wales Scotland match was definitely better than Ireland France.

I think that because of the injuries for Ireland they’re playing a one dimensional game and are stifling the games that they play in basing their game around defence (not that England aren’t!). This was shown by their inability to capitalise on the possession and territory in the first half.

Wales Scotland was a good game – Scotland showed more promise than last week and had the TMO picked up on Davies’ offside they would have been in a better position. Obviously a lot of rugby is based on luck of the draw!

I also think Jamie Roberts is only good for gaining 1 or 2 metres per carry – hence his try from close range.

Hoping for a good result tomorrow to give England some momentum for Ireland.

To begin with Simon, Cardiff is not a small space or city. Obviously an antique Welsh perception as like Davies being off side, as like Roberts stats. Maybe look at the English lack of flair and as stated before atmosphere outside the stadium. Scotland, Ireland and Cardiff show how hospitality and atmosphere before and after the game should be.

I didn’t mean to offend by saying its a small space, but relative to London the centre of Cardiff is small.

At no point did I say England were tearing the 6n apart with flair – I in fact referenced England playing a defence led game – I’ve merely commented on the two games that have been played this round (and the atmospheres I’ve experienced personally at the millennium, Aviva and tiwickenham).

I think the post match analysis pretty much covered the Davies offside point, and while I think Roberts is a good centre, it can be argued that he is very one dimensional. Not that I am suggesting in any way that England currently are the best team ever beating teams with flair and pace.

And the atmosphere outside in Cardiff is all well and good if your Welsh and you are into.hordes of hippocrocopig hen parties. Otherwise it is dire. Like a bloody great Tom Jones karaoke.

I’ve been to Cardiff many times, played Rugby there, watched it. Went to see Calzaghe vs Kessler, even had to endure a stag do.
Cardiff is a shit hole, sorry but it is. Full of screaming orange women, people wearing daffodils and middle aged men in the last chance saloon of lust or love.
The stadium itself is awful, half the seats need tv screens so you can actually see what going on.
It’s the worst experience in the rugby world. Murrayfield, Stade France, Twickenham, any ground in NZ knock Cardiff into a cocked hat. Mainly cos you don’t get the same levels of vitriolic nasty hatred….and the beers better, even in NZ.

after 3-2-1,…and your” BACK IN THE ROOM” , next time dont ask for directions in Wales, with your accent you will always get directions to Swansea it sounds like you were at the old Vetch field to me , does’nt sound like the ground that is constantly voted the words best for location & atmosphere or just “best ground”, to claim you had a problem with the view is nonsense unless your a dwarf , its has some of the steepest stands in in the world and is the reason its the loudest , you were obviously on the bottom tier , too tight to buy a round too i’ll bet . your jealousy is obvious, but i promis to think of you next time your getting soaked through sitting in the little gallery on HQs top tier singing englans only song, and dont forget to take your flag, its the one with red cross,,not the union flag that english fans were confused about until the 70s ,If you think Cardiff is vitriotic you should here the songs we sing on the irish trip!,………and …”SLEEP”

Ah Jez, such a lovely guy. The people of Cardiff will be delighted to know you won’t be back. We are very sorry your wife ran off with a Welshman but at least she is happy now.

Oh Jez, so there are rules to this being an obnoxious arse thing? Do enlighten me, it all sounds so civilised when rules are added. ThIs is that sarcasm you love by the way – I don’t follow your rules. If you want to get childishly crappy about where I live then don’t expect civility, expect tediously childish replies in kind. It’s a two way street. Speak as you wish to be spoken to.

I disagree with Osiboy, especially the way he put it. On my days at Twickers I’ve had fab days at Richmond. It’s fair to say this isn’t, imo, as good as other places I’ve been to because I had to walk miles to/from it but that was small beer for a fun day out. Wales lost. Lots of gracious Eng fans there, all around me – in fact I was the only Welshman in my bit but all was good. Nobody like Jez there at all.

Pit it this way Brighty, if we were to have this debate in the pub we’d probably have a laugh at some of the ‘banter’ about the different stereotypes.
Mention.my wife or any other member of my family and I’d put my fist though your cheekbone 🙂

To be fair, the best atmosphere I’ve experienced in Cardiff was on the 2nd day of the World Cup. Ireland beat Canada and then we watched Japan beat SA – then in the queue a very funny Canadian gent was taunting some South Africans (all in good fun)

Duncan Taylor made more metres in his try, beating the defensive machine (get the sarcasm) Roberts, than Roberts made whole game.

EXACTLTLY Paul, , Thats what i was trying to explain, obviously i was right or simple simo would have understood , …once you walk out of twickers the day is over , as it is for many English fans in cardiff/dublin/edinboro, its a pity you cant see it sim, you just dont have the same relationship/banter/welcome as the celtic cousins have among ourselves , its something you obviously will never understand unless you go in disguise with a dragon a tricolour or rampant lion around your neck , honestly , i pity you , you miss what the rest of us love about the game, its not to do with the ground , its about after the after match fun n’ banter,which is non existent at HQ,… bye that time everyone from HQ , by then the english are back in their lounge , if you dont understand , dont reply . Prity gound , crap trip ,… 2 times was enough , but scotland and ireland every time for 25 yrs , what has twickers got apart from exclusiveness ?

I’ve been in many a pub around tiwickenham that had plenty of fans from both sides in throwing harmless banter around over a few drinks. You may have had a different experience – of which I cannot comment on.

Surely the day is over when you decide it to be, not as soon as you leave a stadium.

Simple osiboy seems more appropriate.

oh boy , you just don’t get it do you , ,…carry on with your banter for an hour b4 and when you go home if you can find a pub within 500m that you can get served with in the hour ,…well worth the workds most expensive tickets and free prawn sanwiches for the few ,… you gettin it now ? doooh !, your different , its obvious by your answers ,….. try travel dodo

If you put together a sensical, coherent comment it would be easier to reply.

You appear to have a lot off dislike built up with England Rugby and the perceived lack of banter around tiwickenham (for which you’re are entitled told you so please.

Have you been to the Army vs Navy match at tiwickenham? As I can assure you that there is plenty of banter after the match. I’m sure you’ll say that this because of the Celtic regiments…

Osiboy it appears that you are willing to express your opinion but then you refuse to listen to any opposing arguements and you resort to name calling.

Also, where are the free prawn sandwiches… 😉 ?

you don’t know that twickers is famous 4 prawn sarnies ? , jeeez , where you been ? , last time i jumped over the fence and wall there were plenty on offer from the bentlys , a very welcoming buch of chaps , didn’t see them after the match tho , which is the point im trying to make ,.. no , never been to army v navy , was it exciting ? worth travelin’ for a 6 hr round trip ? super , jolly hockeys and all that , ,…. you still seem to miss the point , twickers is isolated in a massive city, when the whistle blows not only is the game over , so is the day , jump on the bus/train and you might get back to a city where people actually speak to each other in the same language usually ,and everyone will have an opinion on the game that just took place , sorry for my spelling mistakes , i went to a comp, never saw a prawn sandwich before i went to twickers old boy .your opinions show why your the “odd” nation out !, just a little above the rest , thats why you dont experience what the rest of us do

Honestly mate, the banter there at HQ, the amount of times I’ve got pissed with Mick the Munch in the 3 kings and one memorable occasion BOD…you obviously don’t want to find the fun to be had in Twickenham, is it something to do with you being an arse?

No one actually discussing the game here, apparently seems to be about who has the best post game pubs, Twickenham or the Principality. Duncan Taylor arguably should have got man of the match or Seymour, best of a bad bunch really.
Let’s be honest, despite getting nominated for breakthrough of the year 2015, Bennett has as much influence on a game as a fart on weather patterns.
Im bored of Scotland being spoken about as a team making strides, or being able to see the work Vern is doing, better yet how well they did in the world cup. Has no one else noticed how they have still achieved nothing, 6N wooden spoon last year (they lost to a very poor Italian team in the last minute) beat Japan, after they had smashed SA and received a horriby unfair schedule, scraped past arguable the worst samoa side we have seen at a world cup. Italy get talked about leaving the 6 nations for georgia but why not Scotland, they have equal ability to be abysmal.

Scotlands performances were so perfectly summed up in the dying minutes of the game, fantastic try by Taylor. Receive the subsequent kick off, pass to a forward for a simple carry which is executed with a bad pass and a poor pick up. Their ability to combine the good with the piss poor is really only reserved for the Scottish team.

Scotland – competed for 60 minutes, lost the game in the other twenty. Sound familiar? Think Wales will go onto win 6N from here. They have enough firepower to do that but can’t see where the development of the team is coming from to regularly beat SH teams. Some quality backs but I still think that they remain underutilised. The two long range tries were great individual efforts, not tries coming from great tactics.

“Think Wales will go onto win 6N from here”

I think they will need to improve dramatically to do that. Wales were very predictable again, and their much heralded defence leaked 2 tries. Still their pack was impressive against what was seen as a formidable scrum pre tournament.

Benjit, I’m wondering who can beat their power game. Possibly England or France but not confident in either to be honest. Wales always start slowly and grow into the tournament so I can only see them getting better. I’d love to be wrong of course!

Tom James was poor as I predicted b 4 the Ireland game. He was totally at fault for the 1st Scottish try and could not even finish off the golden chance he had in the 2nd half to justify his selection. He is simply too dull for international rugby as earlier in the 2nd half he butchered an overlap by going into contact and Wales lost possession/got penalised.

Anscombe and P++shand were at fault for the 2nd try. Captain Darling cannot stay at 6, Wales need to bring back Lydiate and this will inevitably see Tips on the bench. Charteris and Rob Evans were replaced too soon. They gave Wales the edge in lineout and scrum.

At least Wales won and the Scots have only beaten Wales once since 2003 in the 6n. Roberts was immense..truly truly immense and George North will feel a hell of a lot better for that superb try.
Diolch fechgyn and pob lwc i yr Eidal heddiw!

Agree re the back row. Warburton and Tips are world class but it doesn’t make sense to put Warburton at blindside when you’ve got a better 6 in Lydiate. They need to choose an openside flanker and leave Lydiate at 6.

Tedious. I thought the hyperbole after th 1st weekend was over the top but the 3 games this weekend were dire, even when forgiving the more tribal and perhaps therefore confrontational nature of this comp compared to the SH basketball.

Wales were poor – wrong options taken, simple draw and pass skills not executed, unbalanced backrow, lethargic ruck ball service. Liam Williams needs to pass, Preistland needs to tackle, we need Webb back and the old non grubber kicking Jonathan Davies. A backs move, called by the players as a planned moved, not just individual off the cuff stuff, wins the game. This is good but was the only time we did it. Scotland are just incapable of winning so nothing really learned.

This 6 nations comp needs a spark, some fire. Cannot begin to see where that is going to come from. The Welsh team needs a kick up the backside.

Am also curious about the over use of JDs left boot. He’s a gifted runner, deceptively quick and strong. Wales just not playing to their strengths imo. I think that they will improve though.

He’s usually got a lovely fade to his step which tends to put him through on a weak shoulder but he’s just not using it. So frustrating. I hope you are right about us improving. It’s odd stuff to watch – too many big names being largely anonymous. Perhaps North scoring will be the system cleaner we need. A fri night against France in Cardiff could be just the time to find out, hopefully.

Brighty – my monies still on Wales. I don’t know why but you always start slowly and then get better, usually peaking for England!!! I do find the over reliance on JR crash ball as limiting the back play though. Yes it works to a certain extent but look at the Welsh creativity when the game goes unstructured. It’s when you play your best rugby. You’ve got some hugely gifted footballers – probably some of the best in the world but they just aren’t allowed to play. You know it’s my main gripe about Gatland. Still think you’ve got enough to win 6N, but the style of play needs to change to compete with the SH imo. And I think you can – solid front 5, excellent back row and fantastic set of backs (albeit a couple of injuries from your best line up).

Agree with most of what yoy say Brighty, especiially the draw and pass logic that Wales seem to be so poor at under gatland and recent times , i’ve watched the game 2 times now and sure i agree that passing the bal is a basic skil , Liam williams seldom had anyone to pass to !, i think Wales are really missing scott Williams , he’s the only guy in the back line capable of making a break , good tackler, and football brain , i would pick him over roberts aaal day , Wales seem scared to play rugby football anymore, they go for brawn b4 brain which was what we were always the best at , now we just compete in the brawn game , even biggar is 6’2″ i believe but if you watched Munsterv ospreys today Sam Davies was superb as is owain williams , {Leicester}, yet priesland is still in the squad cos hes gatlands future son-inlaw {allegedly} , little mat morgan is another , i bet hes the quickest guy over 20m in pro rugby , but no brawn , i could go on , but i’m not sure why u dont rate Davies as a s-half , he scores tries and has a fast pass .i have no idea who we can pick instead of tom james , until hapenny is back

A lot of talk in the media about G.Davies being offside for Wales first try, but I read the situation differently. When Roberts competes in the air he taps it backwards into Taylors hand which deflects the ball forwards to Davies therefore the ball came back off a Scotland hand putting Davies onside

I am sure many will disagree but i reckon Cuthbert would have finished Tom James length of the field job. Surely bread & butter for an international wing. I know Cuthbert has lost his way but at his best he was a great finisher for Wales & B&IL. Sorry Tom James , I am a Rhymney boy too , but you need to find more.

Steve,

I said he wasn’t up to it when some people were calling for him to be picked. Just because he looked good in a dire Cardiff Lose team, that did not make him an international class player.

He was also at fault for Scotland’s 1st try when he rushed out of the line leaving a gaping hole behind him. The Scots also targeted him with a few kicks in the 2nd half. He may have ‘matured’ as his supporters (Cardiff Loos fans) say but you can bulk up brain cells in the gym and this lad is just not fast enough of thought or fast enough of foot as Saturday showed.

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