Comments on: Simpson fit again and desperate for another World Cup call-up http://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up Rugby Union opinion and discussion, for the fans, by the fans. Tue, 03 May 2016 09:52:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: Don Phttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378395 Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:13:26 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378395 When you state that the other 1/2s ‘offer ‘more’ than Simpson, specifically what do you mean?

Simpson has searing pace that the others don’t have. He runs kicks & passes… & is more unpredictable.

Youngs, e.g., makes some breaks & kicks, but his passing can be sus. Care is the opposite, i.e., although he too can make breaks, his kicking is more erratic, but his passing is better (than that of Youngs). If either were that superior, then why the chopping & changing with them?

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By: Don Phttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378394 Mon, 13 Jul 2015 12:42:57 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378394 Particularly in WC sudden death games, start with yr best players, i.e., those whom are likely to score/create most points, yet give away the least. Therefore I’d go with Carter (e.g., kicked 9 from 10? v Samoa) & McCaw. What’s the point in having your captain on the bench? May as well appoint another skipper if the incumbent’s not a starter.

However, it’s also about the best team executing game plans under pressure & not just the shuffling players for so called ‘impact’, or ‘fresh legs’ effect. Subs should bring something different from those being replaced IMO.

Barrett runs @ defences & is less orthodox than Carter. He’s also as quick as some wingers, but his goal kicking didn’t help the Canes in the S15 final.

Cane is, I think, taller, heavier? & more rangy than McCaw. Harder to stop near the try line, but also less exp, less wily.

In respect of Simpson, he’s offers more variety, has more bow strings than the other England 1/2s. He is also less predictable & less known to opposition. Therefore he more of a threat.

Takes a different mindset to choose him though… bit like that of the England cricket team’s?

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By: Jacobhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378365 Fri, 10 Jul 2015 08:49:13 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378365 Two 9’s? Can’t see that happening – he will need 3.

I’m struggling to see outside of Youngs, Care and Wrigglesworth. As much as I like Simpson, I’m not sure I’d take him either. Youngs goes as first choice, Wrigglesworth offers something different so he goes. Then it’s a shoot out between Care and Simpson; personally I do think Simpson is the better player right now, but Care’s experience gets him ahead.

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By: Andrewhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378364 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 18:18:46 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378364 Ah the Simpson debate.I have to agree with Jamie on this one and say that he is not my first choice, nor is he my second. If I’m honest i think Dickson pips him in my books too. He’s had a fine season and its a shame that he got injured in the run up to the world cup but I don’t think he would have made the cut against Youngs or Care.

Last year Care ruled the roost and this year Youngs is reminding his form which made him as good as he was 2 years ago. Dickson isn’t exactly a bad shout either but Lancaster will only take two 9’s.

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By: Mikehttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378362 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:21:43 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378362 Assuming “fully fit and on form”… Surely a fully fit and on form Youngs, Care or Wigglesworth offers more than a fully fit and on form Simpson? Yes, Simpson has been better this season – but there’s a reason the others are above him, and that’s because in the past they too have played some scintillating stuff, in the case of Youngs and Care that stuff has been at international level too. Simpson may offer that “fear factor” but so do an in-form Youngs or Care, and Wigglesworth has such a good kicking game that at international level can be so important! Simpson is good, yes, but I’d be very happy not to see him in the squad (the same way I’d be very happy to see him there – I believe any 3 of those 4 SHs will be very good for England, and be happy with any)

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By: Leonhttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378361 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:55:11 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378361 Youngs was fantastic for England in the 6N it was a toss up between him and Joseph for the best English player of the tournament.
Fully fit and on form Simpson probably offers more than Care or Wigglesworth

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By: Jamiehttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378359 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:01:02 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378359 I don’t disagree, but I do think the most recent performances of players in the international team count for a lot – and quite rightly. With that in mind, B Youngs is comfortably first choice, Wigglesworth probably second and then it’s a shootout for that third spot – personally I would definitely have Simpson in the squad, and probably put him on the bench for impact.

To flip the situation back to you, do you advocate starting Cane/Barrett over McCaw/Carter for NZ (amongst other examples)? The former are just 2 examples of players in form that are likely to miss out to players in worse domestic form, but higher in the international ‘pecking order’. For a WC, experience counts for a lot.

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By: Don Phttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378358 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 13:37:01 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378358 J, I know he was injured, but I just don’t see why ‘he’d probably be third’ if he has all the skills I think he has. Surely Lancaster should take him to Denver & fast track the guy. I mean, as England have oscillated mostly between Youngs & Care, are either of them really up to it? Do they offer more than GI Joe? I don’t think so… & there’s a WC to win!

And as England have already ‘lost’ a 1/3rd of a team, can they afford to squander a 1/2back who is more likely to frighten the oppo with his unpredictable variety in attack? Again, I don’t think so… but then S. Lancaster I ain’t.

Ah well, no skin off I suppose, but as a rugby purist, it frustrates me to see SKILLED players wasted by being stuck in some nebulous pecking order. They’re either good enough or they’re not. For me, Joe Simpson is the former.

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By: Jamiehttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378357 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 13:06:37 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378357 Don, if he hadn’t got injured at the end of the season, he’d probably be third. As it is four other guys have been training with the squad, and will go on the trip to Denver, which he will almost definitely miss out on also. After that there is so little time until the warm-up games start it’s difficult to see how he can force his way in.

That passage was written purely with the injury in mind.

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By: Don Phttp://www.therugbyblog.com/simpson-fit-again-and-desperate-for-another-world-cup-call-up#comment-378356 Thu, 09 Jul 2015 13:02:36 +0000 http://www.therugbyblog.com/?p=38221#comment-378356 If ‘Since 2011 Simpson has blossomed into a more-rounded player’, how come ‘Now, he is probably the fifth cab off the rank’? Surely this doesn’t make any sense.

For me he ought to start for England. He has searing pace as well as a sharp, all round game whereby he can pass, run & kick. He also seems to play without fear & brims with confidence much like Mike Brown did a year or so back. His speed in decision making & variety of play options therefore offer more of a threat than his England contemporaries.

Do any of his rivals possess all of these attributes? If he really is only 5th choice, then maybe Stuart Lancaster thinks so.

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