
1. Rugby is a simple game
Going into Sunday’s game in Dublin, all the talk was of how England had the more exciting set of young backs, but Ireland were so tactically astute that the visitors might not get the chance to show it. The game went almost exactly to script. Ireland had nearly 60% possession and territory, more passes and runs than England, but far fewer metres gained. They nailed the basics and starved England of a platform or field position from which to unleash the likes of Watson and Nowell, who looked dangerous intermittently. Joseph was nowhere to be seen – the speed with which he was shut down was obvious and further proof of Schmidt’s excellence as a coach. Every player outside Sexton in the Ireland back-line is a competent fullback, and coupled with Sexton and Murray’s pinpoint kicking, they won the aerial battle. They blew England out of the water at the breakdown and shaded the set piece battle. Once you’ve won those three areas, 90% of the time you’ve won the game. It’s not pretty, but should Ireland win the grand slam, how many of their fans will care? Whether it’s enough to win a World Cup, is a different matter…
2. Defeat from jaws of victory
It was a case of one step forward, two steps back for Scotland as they went down to the Italians at Murrayfield. It was, to be perfectly honest, a baffling result. The Scots have looked immensely resurgent under Vern Cotter, with an autumn campaign in which they looked confident in their own abilities pointing to greater things this Six Nations. And yet here we are again, with Scotland fans all but mourning another Six Nations campaign after three consecutive losses. Against Italy, as with the two previous games, they played some excellent rugby – much better than the opposition – only to shoot themselves in the foot at crucial times. The try from the penalty rebound was pretty much inexcusable, as was a missed touch in the final minute after winning a hard fought scrum penalty. It is these small mistakes that Scotland consistently seem to make, and they add up to losses when victories are well within their grasp. How you coach that kind of error out of a team, is not clear.
3. Time for change
What has happened to France? It is utterly baffling to pretty much every single pundit and fan how such a talented group of players can be playing so despondently. Sure, this team is some way off the top French vintages we have come to know down the years, and it certainly has its deficiencies – the engine room, most notably – but with the calibre of individual they have on the pitch, they should not be putting in such consistently mediocre performances. The buck surely has to stop with the coach. Philippe Saint-André was a fine player, capable of dazzling, but his charges now seem loathe to try anything approaching the flair their coach showed. They don’t look like they want to play for him, and his comments at the weekend would appear to indicate that he knows it. Quite why he thinks taking to the press to express himself is the right thing to do is as unclear as France’s gameplan. It would be no surprise to see them go winless for the rest of the championship, which would leave the FFR in a real quandary – sacking the coach this close to a World Cup would be unprecedented, but would they really have a choice?
4. A setback, nothing more
England were tactically outclassed in Dublin on Sunday, but they have still made strides in the right direction this championship. They are certainly still in with a very good chance of winning the title, thanks to their attractive points difference after demolishing Italy. They will rely on Wales beating Ireland in Cardiff, but with the Welsh looking twice the team they were when England themselves visited the Millenium Stadium, and Gatland looking to get one over his old team, that is far from out of the question. Scotland and France – both of whom are in a much worse place – are England’s remaining obstacles, both at Twickenham, which gives them an excellent chance of winning them both, and doing so well to end on a good points difference. A loss away to the tactically brilliant Ireland does not make this Six Nations a failure for England.
5. Return from the brink
Wales are in a similar situation to England, having also lost one game to opponents who out-thought them tactically, and executed more precisely on the pitch. The difference is, the Welsh have gone a long way to eradicating the memory of that opening day defeat at home to England with two hard-fought, thoroughly well deserved wins away to Scotland and France. England’s loss, meanwhile, is fresh in the memory. Wales’ win over France was the more impressive, with a moment of brilliance from the back-row and half-backs proving what this side of capable of. After seeing their game-plan nullified in round one by England, they were being largely written off but they have certainly thrown their hat back in the ring for title contenders. Next up is Ireland and their ability to identify a side’s strength and negate it. There is much talk of Wales’ lack of a Plan B, but surely if they are to beat Joe Schmidt’s team, who will have watched how Wales came up short when England out-thought them, they will have to try something different at some stage.
By Jamie Hosie
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30 replies on “Six Nations 2015 Round 3: 5 things we learned”
All good points.
Anyone who says England have been shown up to be a “bad team” knows about as much as the people who said the same thing about Wales after round one. It is simply a tactical set back. Those happen.
Lancaster does however need to start looking at effective substitutions; Ford was practically begging for help on Sunday, and BillyT is hardly the 7th Cavalry.
That said, just like good teams, bad teams aren’t made overnight.
France… now they have looked dodgy for several seasons. Despite their talent individually, I would happily throw down the gauntlet and say THAT is a bad team; because they simply cannot function as one apparently!
Based on what Jamie has written, that looks like it is true all the way from the Head Coach to the waterboy. I still think sacking their coach now is next to pointless, but he should be out after RWC, to make way for someone the team can actually get behind. Ironically, the rugby individual who the French have got the most behind in recent years is Jonny Wilkinson… and I am pretty sure there is something in the Magna Carta that says he can’t become Head Coach of France…
Scotland; I literally do not know what to say in regards to how they improve. Whereas France’s problems seem to stem from their Coach, Scotland’s looks like it stems from their players. Much is made when teams like Ireland and England “underestimate” Italy… some go so far as to label it arrogance… but if anyone can hold that flag up this year it is Scotland. I would fancy that those “silly” errors – the clean up after the scuffed pen, the clearance to touch – probably wouldn’t have happened if they had been up against those aforementioned top teams, because their players are operating at an extra 10-15%. Against Italy, they were lackadaisical… and were rightly punished for it.
One extra thing that I learnt was that the strategy of the kick-chase game plan, if precisely implemented by players comprehensively drilled in the skill, is a match winner on its own let alone when supported by ferocity at the breakdown. I was hugely impressed by the accuracy of the kicking of Murray and Sexton and the athleticism of the Irish chasers.who jumped and caught like American Football wide receivers.
Wales showed against England how disastrous a kick chase game can be when all parts of it are not functioning at 100%. Since then we have shown, against Sco and Fra, who adept we can be at it. Biggar’s kicks are practically forward passes to himself.
France were pants in the lead-up to the last World Cup, even lost to Tonga in the group stages, and somehow made the final. Can’t do it again, can they?
I think no matter who Ireland play Joe will have a game plan for that specific game, I think we will see more of the backs against Wales with less kicking as their back three are all big men
Ireland will also need a plan B – they can launch those kicks at Liam, 1/2p. North and Biggar all day long if they want, we’ll lap it up.
I was thinking this earlier! Not sure Ireland will have the same success against those three as he did against Goode and Nowell.
I’m now becoming confident that Wales can do us a massive favour!
Brighty! – Correct me if I’m wrong but in the 26 – 3 match last year didn’t Kearney beat 1/2p for the ball after a Sexton garryowen – leading to a ruck from which Sexton pinned Wales in in their 22 – the resulting line out led to Chris Henry’s try.
Here’s a reminder!! ;-D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DvUrz5D90g&spfreload=10
Don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that Ireland could kick their way to victory but I know for a FACT! – A FACT! I say – that Schmidt has other options. I was getting my Charvet shirts back from the dry cleaners and who should be beside me – yes you have guessed it JS!! When he went to pay he put his open filofax!!! I know -that’s what I thought too!! Probably so none could hatck it! on the counter! What do you think I saw? A rainbow of post-its! with Plan B, Plan C, Plan D and Secret Plan neatly typed!.
Don’t know why Wales would bother to turn up.
DDD
We’re there for the pre-match disco, the game is just an exhibition thing for the Harlem Globetrotters of world rugby to do their stuff and march on to the inevitable grand slam.
England fan here. Glad to see some sense for once regarding Sunday’s game. We were just outplayed on the day, no catastrophe there.
Prior to the tournament I was expecting 3rd place so to still be in contention is great.
For Ireland thier big game was always Wales this year. Away from home with solid as nails halfpenny I can’t see the kicking game taking them apart like it did for us. And if rumours of sexton being concussed are true can’t see beyond a Welsh win.
That would make the last weekend a cracker!
Last note, I hope sexton isn’t too serious, think I’m right saying his only just back from concussion? If that’s the case I hope they give him even longer off. I think where he is so key to Ireland he becomes target number one. Not saying any one would mean to knock him out, just rough him up a bit to put him off. As a result I fear such injuries might follow him around.
Welsh fan here. I don’t care what the reason is – as long as he has two weeks off I’m happy!
As an England fan I’m astonished that you seem quite comfortable with the idea of finishing third in a W Cup year! It’s partly this paucity of ambition that is hampering our development.
Nothing personal just puzzled.
brighty
‘Ireland will also need a plan B’ or ‘we’ll lap it up’. Are you playing are you? It’s yet to be seen if the Welsh back 3 can indeed lap it up. England prepped for it. Didn’t do them a lot of good. And anyway, Ireland did run a few v England.
Your Welsh mucker in the ST reckons there’s no such thing as ‘a plan B’. There are only ‘adjustments’, presumably to ‘plan A’.
Besides, whatever ‘a plan B’ is, it can only be implemented if the oppo allow it. That goes for both teams. Wales certainly didn’t appear to change things up much v England as far as I could tell. Maybe they’ll need ‘a plan B’ too. Aerial perhaps?
England coaches failures caused their loss to a one dimension Irish team. We knew the Irish would keep the game tight. The English looked the idiots. Irish simply ran into opponents and waited for a penalty. It is a disgrace that England coaches did not spend alot of the time available drilling the laws into the players. So many obvious ones. Not coming through gate, and when they do, they do not come from behind last foot. Holding on to the ball. I could go on and on. Our rucking was clearly second best to a better coached technique. Irish were clearly playing the smart game. We knew they would kick and we had no answer. There was no urgency to get back and support catcher when ball kicked long and the players had clearly not practiced technique for dealing with a high up and under. Remember a time a few years ago when the Bok played a big kicking game. ABs were initially surprised and Bok won a couple of games, but ABs soon found the answer. Bok soon stopped that tactic. Its not difficult.
Finally England started to play rugby in the last 10 minutes. Why do we always leave it until the dieing minutes when we are behind? The stats for metres run with ball by centres was terrible. The whole back row had better numbers. One can clearly see where the coaches had the emphasis. Fire our forwards coach to start. France need to change their coach now. They need better ideas or just any idea. The players are pros and should be able to adapt very quickly. I still can’t believe Scots lost. They were doing so well finally. Cotter says it was his fault but I’d like to know why.
A bit over the top I think. England were outplayed and out thought on the day, plain and simple. But one bad game against a v good Irish team at home is no tragedy. In 2012 when we beat nz we dominated the breakdown, there was no talk then of nz being poorly coached and in need of a new forward coach. Likewise when we beat Wales in the first game. Besides why would we het rid of the liond forwards coach who is considered one of the best in the business especially when our pack recently has single handedly won/kept us in games? Comment on the centres is a bit short sighted. We had 60% of possession and little of what we did have was any good due to Irish good play. You can’t just magic metres in international rugby.
Sometimes I think people have trouble with realistic expectation with England, pre tournament we were being written two wins and then suddenly people are looking for a slam. That was never on this year but we are still in with a shout for the title (I honestly think Wales will beat Ireland).
I agree and I don’t believe this was just a bad day at the office. what we saw on sunday recurs time and again under Lancaster.
Time and again England look good for one or two games then the wheels come off and it all goes tits up. What I really cannot understand is the reluctance by so many, including even Brian Moore to say that this is just not good enough for the world’s biggest rugby nation.
I honestly believe that if the Wales game was replayed tomorrow England would lose. They got lucky,catching wales when in the middle of a very intense spell of fitness training (which is now paying off by the way) and JJ producing a bit of magic.
At the risk of repeating myself England players regress when in camp. Why?
Anyone who thinks Ireland are a one trick pony and will play the same game plan agaisnt Wales is a kidding themselves because Wales have a far better back three.
Instead they will be looking to do what they have done to them for the last couple of years and try to kick to the corners at every opportunity and beat them in the rolling maul. Expect a narrow attacking line in the backs to draw in the wingers, opening up the gaps behind and Sexton dinking it over the top
Completely agree Leon – can’t see them doing the kick&chase so much against us.
I really think there will be a lot of variation. Schmidt teams do not play one way. Against Italy they held onto the ball, against England and France there was increased kicking.
also, there is a lot of bullish chat coming from the Welsh media regarding the perceived weakness of the Irish team. The same team that has just won 10 games in a row including two southern hemisphere sides and beaten Wales on their last two meetings.
If Ireland are a ‘one-trick pony’ then it is one hell of a trick.
What bullish chat is this?
I’ve seen articles saying they can be beaten and we can beat them. I’d go with that – doesn’t mean we will though, but to not even say we can would seem to be a bit daft. Seen a few Irish commentators and articles claiming Wales are favourites – the usual ploy of trying to foist the pressure on the oppo.
Last comment spot on. This is the way Ireland have played against Wales at international and regional level in recent years with some success. Can’t see them changing the pattern now.
This Plan A, Plan B stuff is really taken out of context
It is less about having a change of plan mid game and more about changing your tactics based on your opponents to exploit your opponents weaknesses. If you have done your homework correctly then there is very rarely a need to have a Plan B.
Are you sure those post it notes didnt say Plan I, Plan F, Plan E, Plan W and Plan S
That I could believe
This might come across as a bit Welsh! – but I have no plan B to be able to respond to your post with!
Really sorry! –
I’m so embarrassed I’m blushing – I look like I have false suntan on! I know Gatland prefers the players to use Quicktan – but I look a bit more Brilliant Bronze.
DDD
Actually Leon on mature recollection it didn’t say Plan B etc. – it said – deep breath! Plans W,S,W,S,W,E,C,R,I,F,A,A!N.
So much for one match at a time!
DDD
Darn it why when i hit reply do my comments not appear inline but at the bottom of the page?
DDD that above comment was in response to your post
Wittering about game plans aside, it all depends on whether Sexton is fit to play or not. If he is, Ireland are odds on favourites. If he isn’t, then I’ll putting cash on the Welshies to win by 6-10 points
Either way, I’m rather looking forward to the next installment of the Millenium Stadium’s pre-match version of a school disco
BTW – will the Irish want the roof open or closed??
OPEN of course!! what do you think this is – a school disco?
DDD
Peter Evans brit47 on superbru
Agree about the coaching. Been blogging it ad infinitum. Others say lay off Lancs, but the buck really dose stop with him, esp after 3 &1/2 yrs. JS came in & won the 6N 1st up, going well so far this time. Not definitive of course as 1 loss v Wales could turn all this press hype about him & Ireland around.
But basic stuff like England’s wingers carrying the ball under the inside arm, negating any possibility of a fend, or grabbing spilled ball from a team mate & in FRONT of him, is either plain dumb (cease thinking with a whiff of hair dryer), or they don’t know the rules. What DO they practise before a match?
The penalty count & breakdown defeat killed England. And the Irish scrum mostly held up too. But why didn’t Robshaw lay down the law about the penalty count & breakdown? Why didn’t Lancaster change anything @ 1/2 time? Why did he leave the struggling Ford on with the exp Cip on the bench? Beggars belief.
England got back @ the end after Sexton went off & there was a front row change.
dingdongdenny
Plan BS might work better.
B
Agree, JS’s teams have run it plenty in the past, albeit @ provincial level. And they they did run it some v England, it’s just that they kicked a lot more (44 times & even the ABs don’t kick that much – even according to punters who imply their game is too based around this aspect). Basically when a team has the ball they should seek to score points. Which is what Ireland did effectively last Sat. If it ain’t broke, why fix it might be 1 argument?
My own view is that if a team becomes predictable, they then leave themselves vulnerable to oppo who WILL, @ some point, counter them. E.g. with a/player/s running back towards their own ball catcher & in line with him to (legally) ‘block’ a ball chaser. The defender/s don’t have to run fast, so he/they can slow the chaser & so long as he/they don’t deviate from their running line it’s less easy for the chaser to connect with the catcher.
Anyway, I suspect that Schmidt will be aware of this possibility (esp during the WC) & will have the options of varying his kicking game or opening the game up more, as appropriate.
But Wales better scrum & win the breakdown, or else.